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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really useful thread for someone in my position. I have a degree already and want to switch careers to graphic design. Tuition fees in the UK are about to rise to hideous levels, and after going to all the major Arts University degree shows (LCC included) I have to say I am not at all impressed with the quality of work on show.

The portfolio of student work on the Shillington site is a lot better. I mean, look at some of this stuff:
http://showtime.arts.ac.uk/lcc/ma-graphic-design

I think you&#039;ll agree it isn&#039;t what you&#039;d expect from people who have completed a year-long full-time master&#039;s degree from what is probably the country&#039;s most prestigious Design institution.

I know what design is and I am aware it can&#039;t be taught in 3 months, but that isn&#039;t the point - based on the LCC gallery (and others) it can&#039;t be taught in 4 years either, so there is absolutely no argument against Shillington from that perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really useful thread for someone in my position. I have a degree already and want to switch careers to graphic design. Tuition fees in the UK are about to rise to hideous levels, and after going to all the major Arts University degree shows (LCC included) I have to say I am not at all impressed with the quality of work on show.</p>
<p>The portfolio of student work on the Shillington site is a lot better. I mean, look at some of this stuff:<br />
<a href="http://showtime.arts.ac.uk/lcc/ma-graphic-design" rel="nofollow">http://showtime.arts.ac.uk/lcc/ma-graphic-design</a></p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll agree it isn&#8217;t what you&#8217;d expect from people who have completed a year-long full-time master&#8217;s degree from what is probably the country&#8217;s most prestigious Design institution.</p>
<p>I know what design is and I am aware it can&#8217;t be taught in 3 months, but that isn&#8217;t the point &#8211; based on the LCC gallery (and others) it can&#8217;t be taught in 4 years either, so there is absolutely no argument against Shillington from that perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: website design samples</title>
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		<dc:creator>website design samples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps, there are some people that are interested to learn graphic design fast but I think if we really want to learn we don’t have to rush on things. Beside, we have enough time to learn about different things including designing and other things we want to learn, it’s just a matter of motivation and patience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, there are some people that are interested to learn graphic design fast but I think if we really want to learn we don’t have to rush on things. Beside, we have enough time to learn about different things including designing and other things we want to learn, it’s just a matter of motivation and patience.</p>
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		<title>By: UrbaneGypsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>UrbaneGypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a pervasive way of thinking over here. I&#039;ve had two clients let me go after learning a complete tear-down and redesign of their current website could take 12 weeks or more. The thinking is that building a site should take a week, or no longer than a month. We aren&#039;t talking simple sites here either. They are demanding special, secured access for registered users, podcast and video streaming, fillable forms that will pop data into their existing databases, alternative backdoor pages for staff... all this for payment of $1200 total. They ultimately went with cheaper sources and ended up with, in my opinion, cheaper product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a pervasive way of thinking over here. I&#8217;ve had two clients let me go after learning a complete tear-down and redesign of their current website could take 12 weeks or more. The thinking is that building a site should take a week, or no longer than a month. We aren&#8217;t talking simple sites here either. They are demanding special, secured access for registered users, podcast and video streaming, fillable forms that will pop data into their existing databases, alternative backdoor pages for staff&#8230; all this for payment of $1200 total. They ultimately went with cheaper sources and ended up with, in my opinion, cheaper product.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 02:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After studying graphic design at salford uni for a year before deciding it wasn&#039;t for me i stumbled across shillington, at first I couldn&#039;t understand how I could learn graphic design so quickly, needless to say i took the chance and enrolled on the full time course. Originally I had a huge interest for design but lacked the skills on adobe..the course structure was very good from the start with students being taken step by step through the different processes we needed to use for each given brief. the course structure was amazing, with each brief given looking at a different aspect of design, i would typically sign off maybe 3 projects a week, and genuinely enjoyed each one. In terms of uni vs. shillington I produced far more work of a better standard on the 3 month course and looked forward to finishing  with a good portfolio of work that would hopefully make me stand out. The intensity of the course left me with all the skills that i needed to get a job and I am now employed as a junior graphic designer for a local media company, the same can&#039;t be said of my mates who finished at uni in salford, none of which were taught to use indesign or taken through the process of building a printed portfolio. in summary Shillington is a great place to learn graphic design, is definitely worth the money and is more career orientated which can&#039;t be a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After studying graphic design at salford uni for a year before deciding it wasn&#8217;t for me i stumbled across shillington, at first I couldn&#8217;t understand how I could learn graphic design so quickly, needless to say i took the chance and enrolled on the full time course. Originally I had a huge interest for design but lacked the skills on adobe..the course structure was very good from the start with students being taken step by step through the different processes we needed to use for each given brief. the course structure was amazing, with each brief given looking at a different aspect of design, i would typically sign off maybe 3 projects a week, and genuinely enjoyed each one. In terms of uni vs. shillington I produced far more work of a better standard on the 3 month course and looked forward to finishing  with a good portfolio of work that would hopefully make me stand out. The intensity of the course left me with all the skills that i needed to get a job and I am now employed as a junior graphic designer for a local media company, the same can&#8217;t be said of my mates who finished at uni in salford, none of which were taught to use indesign or taken through the process of building a printed portfolio. in summary Shillington is a great place to learn graphic design, is definitely worth the money and is more career orientated which can&#8217;t be a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Alan - Become a Doctor fast!]

It exists.  

I recall a TV documentary a couple of years ago about a fast track four year medical degree in England; built around modern teaching methods and training workshops.  At the end of their first year the students went into hospitals and were considered by their supervisors to be as advanced as traditional third year students on the seven years programme.

See this link:    http://www.standrews.ac.uk/careerswiki/Medicine_as_a_Second_Degree#Fast_Track_Graduate_Courses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Alan - Become a Doctor fast!]</p>
<p>It exists.  </p>
<p>I recall a TV documentary a couple of years ago about a fast track four year medical degree in England; built around modern teaching methods and training workshops.  At the end of their first year the students went into hospitals and were considered by their supervisors to be as advanced as traditional third year students on the seven years programme.</p>
<p>See this link:    <a href="http://www.standrews.ac.uk/careerswiki/Medicine_as_a_Second_Degree#Fast_Track_Graduate_Courses" rel="nofollow">http://www.standrews.ac.uk/careerswiki/Medicine_as_a_Second_Degree#Fast_Track_Graduate_Courses</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read most comments and although most are very valid and reasonable. 
I think some of you are a little bitter that if someone can obtain the money to do a course at shillington college to become a designer in 3 months, and everyone else spent 4 years to get where they are now. 
Anyone with a creative flair will know this can&#039;t be taught, and if someone without this natrual ability wants to do this and pay they&#039;re own way through it, I can&#039;t see why you all have a problem with that. It&#039;s a life choice to waste money and we&#039;ve all done it in one way or another. If you pay for an education, in what ever time amount of time it takes, if you&#039;re no good at it. You won&#039;t get employed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read most comments and although most are very valid and reasonable.<br />
I think some of you are a little bitter that if someone can obtain the money to do a course at shillington college to become a designer in 3 months, and everyone else spent 4 years to get where they are now.<br />
Anyone with a creative flair will know this can&#8217;t be taught, and if someone without this natrual ability wants to do this and pay they&#8217;re own way through it, I can&#8217;t see why you all have a problem with that. It&#8217;s a life choice to waste money and we&#8217;ve all done it in one way or another. If you pay for an education, in what ever time amount of time it takes, if you&#8217;re no good at it. You won&#8217;t get employed.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys - Please just ask Shillington College. There&#039;s a time and place for Cup-a-soup and this is not it.

What do you think of the advert? You know, the one at the top of the post. The one this thread is supposed to be about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys &#8211; Please just ask Shillington College. There&#8217;s a time and place for Cup-a-soup and this is not it.</p>
<p>What do you think of the advert? You know, the one at the top of the post. The one this thread is supposed to be about?</p>
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		<title>By: Cali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What gets me is how expensive everything is these days! I am trying to make my way in the world of Design but fresh out of uni and a minimal portfolio I am not getting very far. It seems like there&#039;s a lot of false promise around. Is anyone coming to the Designers Fiesta? I think it&#039;s in Waterloo, just came accross this- it looks pretty cool! www.designersfiesta.co.uk pub straight after sounds good to me :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What gets me is how expensive everything is these days! I am trying to make my way in the world of Design but fresh out of uni and a minimal portfolio I am not getting very far. It seems like there&#8217;s a lot of false promise around. Is anyone coming to the Designers Fiesta? I think it&#8217;s in Waterloo, just came accross this- it looks pretty cool! <a href="http://www.designersfiesta.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.designersfiesta.co.uk</a> pub straight after sounds good to me <img src='http://www.holster.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Si</title>
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		<dc:creator>Si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It now seems that the Manchester College Part time evening course Digital Graphic Design foundation degree course will not be running</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It now seems that the Manchester College Part time evening course Digital Graphic Design foundation degree course will not be running</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Become a Doctor fast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Become a Doctor fast!</p>
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